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Re: Scusate l'intrusione da cieli più vicini...
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Iceman.. Proviamo a capirci.. nel rispetto delle opinioni molto distanti...
Citazione:

Il progresso tecnologico è ciò che può rendere la vita migliore!

Non ho negato che il progresso tecnologico può rendere la vita migliore...

Contesto la generalizzazione gratuita: che il progresso tecnologico sia l'UNICO e il solo modo di migliorare la vita. E che lo migliori SEMPRE e comunque.

Prendo il tu stesso esempio: la miniaturizzazione di elementi elettronici portò a inventare nuovi tipi di armi "intelligenti" come nuovi tipi di strumenti chirurgici ...
E guardando complessivamente, allora, facendo un bilancio tra le due cose tra le "armi in genere" e le "invenzioni buone" sono tanto evidenti, almeno ad un'occhiata superficiale, questi BENEfici ?!...

E' così evidente che quello sostieni tu? Non si possono avere opinioni diverse?

Sarebbe da idealisti pensare che l'unico e solo scopo delle missioni spaziali sia stato quello di ottenere benefici per tutta l'umanità e che quello fosse l'unico modo di ottenere quei benefici. ( Cio' non terrebbe conto di altre cose reali... )
Come, d'altra parte, sarebbe da idealisti credere che sia facile cambiare le cose...
Forse ciascuno, nello scambi tra me e rigel, ha attribuito all'altro l'opposto tipo di "idealismo"...

Il discorso sull' Etica sarebbe molto ma molto più vasto...e ce ne andremmo da tutt'altra parte. Ripeto che avevo solo accennato per chi volesse intendere...
Mi fa' un po' girare le scatole, quindi, che mi citi baggianate come il LIVE8
(Ma non ce l'ho con te, è chiaro).

Citazione:

Troppo comodo pretendere sempre dagli altri!

Giustissimo! Ma l'etica non significa affatto "pretendere cose dagli altri" Cosa ti fa pensare questo!?... Anche se anche qui, ci sarebbe da accennare qualcosa, ad esempio: se esprimo il desiderio che si tagliassero le spese militari in Italia ... sarebbe una "pretesa" desiderare che gli "altri" non facciano certe cose con i soldi che sono anche MIEI?!... Rendo l'idea?
E' un "pretendere qualcosa da altri" pretendere di far contare la propria voce riguardo a come si spendono i soldi PUBBLICI!!??

Perché è ovvio che
Citazione:
prima di criticare dovrei impegnarmi almeno nel mio piccolo.

anzi più che "prima", direi "contemporaneamente"... Dovremmo anche considerare che peso hanno le diverse azioni (diverso peso da singolo a singolo ecc e da "istituzione" a istituzione")


Comunque, lasciamo da parte l'etica, se vogliamo.. Fatemi allora un discorso economico..
Fatemi un conto costi-benefici delle missioni spaziali e, a margine costi per chi e benefici per chi... (?)
Posso capire l'amore per la ricera spaziale.. ma questa difesa ad oltranza a tutto campo, mi sembra un "restringere la visione"...
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.... ....io non mi definisco affatto volentieri ateo, non più di quanto io sia a-MickeyMouse.
..
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     Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. hariseldon 17/9/2005 10:32
       Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. Redazione 17/9/2005 12:29
         Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. hariseldon 17/9/2005 12:44
           Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. soleluna 17/9/2005 13:09
             Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. razor 17/9/2005 17:30
               Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. Gianlvca 15/11/2005 0:24
         Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. Iceman 2/3/2006 19:47
           Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. Iceman 6/3/2006 14:00
             Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. Iceman 6/3/2006 14:03
               Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. Iceman 6/3/2006 14:07
                 Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. franco8 6/3/2006 14:49
                   Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. gobbo 6/3/2006 16:23
                   Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. Iceman 6/3/2006 18:26
                     Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. Kolza 6/3/2006 19:15
                       Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. Iceman 6/3/2006 19:46
                         Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. Ettore 6/3/2006 20:57
                           Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. Iceman 7/3/2006 10:50
                             Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. hi-speed 7/3/2006 11:00
                               Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. Iceman 7/3/2006 11:14
                                 Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. hi-speed 7/3/2006 12:52
                                   Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. franco8 7/3/2006 13:23
                                     Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. Ettore 7/3/2006 13:49
                                       Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. Ettore 7/3/2006 14:00
                                       Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. Iceman 7/3/2006 14:17
                                   Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. Iceman 7/3/2006 14:07
                                     Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. hi-speed 7/3/2006 14:19
                                       Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. Iceman 7/3/2006 14:35
                                         Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. hi-speed 7/3/2006 15:27
                                           Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. Iceman 7/3/2006 16:37
                                             Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. Ettore 7/3/2006 17:18
                                               Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. Ettore 7/3/2006 17:41
                                                 Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. Kolza 7/3/2006 19:43
                                                   Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. Ettore 7/3/2006 20:19
                                                 Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. Iceman 7/3/2006 21:23
                                             Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. hi-speed 7/3/2006 17:31
                                               Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. Iceman 7/3/2006 20:28
                                                 Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. maxgallo 7/3/2006 20:42
                                                   Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. Iceman 7/3/2006 21:14
                             Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. Iceman 7/3/2006 11:07
                     Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. franco8 6/3/2006 23:21
                       Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. Kolza 6/3/2006 23:40
                         Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. Ettore 7/3/2006 8:31
                           Re: Altri argomenti di tipo scientifico, storico, ecc. Kolza 7/3/2006 10:43
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                                   Re: U2 di gary Powers Emanuela 21/3/2006 12:26
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                                       Scusate l'intrusione da cieli più vicini... LaoTzu 21/3/2006 12:57
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                                                                             Re: Scusate l'intrusione da cieli più vicini... Iceman 21/3/2006 20:41
                                                                               Re: Scusate l'intrusione da cieli più vicini... franco8 22/3/2006 10:34
                                                                                 Etica o non etica... LaoTzu 22/3/2006 11:05
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                                                                                                           Re: Etica o non etica... rigel 28/3/2006 11:59
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