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Re: SCAPAC 4 - Omeopatia
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PikeBishop ha scritto:


Ed anche i test col placebo, a rigore, sono tutti invalidi, visto che non sappiamo come il placebo funzioni e se funzioni su tutti nella stessa maniera (cosa alquanto improbabile).



Come agisce il placebo é noto, e anche il fatto che non agisca su tutti, e in coloro su cui agisce non agisce nella stessa maniera.
Ciò che non é noto é la 'provenienza' di questo fenomeno.

"The brain has control over the body processes affected by placebos. Pain, motor fatigue and fever are directly organized by the brain. Other processes usually regulated by the body such as the immune system are also controlled indirectly through the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system."

"Both conditioning and expectations play a role in placebo effect,[28] and make different kinds of contribution."

e aggiungerei:

"Research upon conditioning in animals shows the brain can learn control over them. In conditioning, a neutral stimulus saccharin is paired in a drink with an agent, that produces an unconditioned response. For example, that agent might be cyclophosphamide that causes immunosuppression. After learning this pairing, the taste of saccharin by itself through neural top down control created immunosuppression, as a new conditioned response.[82] Such conditioning has been found to effect a diverse variety of basic physiological processes not just in the immune system but ones such as serum iron levels, oxidative DNA damage levels, and insulin secretion. "

In particolare questa frase che ho messo in grassetto mi colpì quando la lessi perchè quando oltre 10 anni fa mi venne prescritto lo Xanax, al quale mi abituai, quando poi mi fu cambiato medicinale dandomene uno con lo stesso principio attivo ma con gusto diverso (l' eccipiente era diverso) per qualche giorno il mio corpo lo rifiutava finchè l' accumulo di principio attivo non si era fatto tale da causare un effetto forzato.
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