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Re: Zeitgeist
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Sertes ha scritto:

Certo, non appena avrai risposto alla mia, perchè quello che hai scritto non è certo una risposta:


Più precisamente cosa non ti è chiaro della mia risposta?

Citazione:

Quindi nessuno va più alla standa (o supermercati similari, che sono cmq di propietà dei ricchi) e coninuiamo a vestirci con quel che abbiamo finchè qqualcuno del ZG apre una fabbrica robotizzata di indumenti (con tutta la filiera, dalla raccolta, all'elaborazione del cotone ecc.)

E allo stesso modo per sottrarre ricchezza ad Agnelli, basta non comprare più auto
E per sottrarre ricchezza ai Moratti non faccio più benzina.
Quindi nell'attesa che qualcuno del ZG apra una fabbrica robotizzata di auto elettriche io vado a lavorare in bici, a 35 km.

Tanto per dirne altre due

Quindi facciamo i frati finchè lo ZG non decolla


Forse non hai capito, nessuno dice che mentre aspetti devi vestirti di stracci, fare la fame e vivere d'elemosina. Rileggi bene quello che ho scritto. Ad ogni modo nessuno ti vieta di assumere un atteggiamento più critico e consapevole nelle tue scelte di consumo, senza per questo essere costeretto ad andare in giro con un saio.
Qui puoi trovare dei consigli sulle "azioni" più comuni per contribuire al cambiameto: Azioni immadiate

Citazione:
Ah, quindi è anche movimento politico. Quindi facciamo i frati finchè lo ZG non decolla, però intanto lo votiamo


Nel senso più ampio del termine qualsiasi movimento di pensiero che si prefigge un cambiamento strutturale e funzionale della società, è un movimento politico. Nel senso più comunemente diffuso del termine "politica", invece, nessuno vieta ad un attivista di un qualsiasi movimento di candidarsi per qualche organo legislativo al fine di supportare gli obbiettivi di quel movimento.

Citazione:

...sembra uno slogan da patatine fritte. Proporre un alternativa che renda l'attuale obsoleto. Sì, ma COME?


Dovresti guardare meno televisione e leggere più libri, faresti delle associazioni di pensiero meno infelici.
Se conoscessi il VP, sapresti COME si vuole fare.
Ti vengo in aiuto:

WHAT IS THE PLAN?

It is far more efficient to build new cities as self-contained systems from the ground up than to restore and retrofit old ones. New cities can take advantage of the latest technologies and be clean, safe, and desirable places to live. In many instances, a circular arrangement will be utilized.

We need a current survey of all available planetary resources. The first experimental city or planning center will conduct a global survey of arable land, production facilities, transportation, technical personnel, population, and all other necessities required for a sustainable culture. This survey will enable us to determine the parameters for global planning for humanizing social and technological development, based on the carrying capacity of Earth and the needs of its people. This can best be accomplished with a constantly updated, computerized model of our planetary resources.

The function of the first city is to test the validity of design parameters and make necessary changes as needed. It will further this new social direction on many fronts with books, magazines, TV, radio, seminars, theater, and theme parks , as well as designing and experimenting with automated building processes for the next city. Research will also seek the development of clean alternative energy sources, and to overcome shortages through the development of new materials

The new system will provide all the necessities required to support people during the transitional period. To sustain civilization, we must coordinate advanced technology and available resources within a humane global systems approach. For instance, the characteristics of the population in a given area will determine how many hospitals and schools are built and the equipment needed. Some medical systems will be mobile and others will be prefabricated on land and sea.

During the transition, scarcity regions will be provided with heat concentrators for cooking and sterilizing water. Food for those areas can be dehydrated and compressed to save shipping space. The packaging will be biodegradable and may double as non-contaminating fertilizers. Regions without arable land will use hydroponic farms, land-based fish farms, and sea farming. Energy will come from wind, solar, heat concentrators, photovoltaic, wave, biomass, geothermal and other sources.

An interdisciplinary team of qualified personnel, in line with the project’s requirements, will work on automated systems to produce and supply goods and services on a massive scale. These can be the armies of the future, a large peaceful mobilization to restore and preserve the earth and its people. This has never been done before and can only be done when money is no obstacle. The question is not do we have the money, but do we have the resources and means to accomplish this new direction.

Phase One

The first phase of The Venus Project's long-term plans is already underway. Jacque Fresco, futurist, inventor, industrial designer, and founder of The Venus Project, and his associate Roxanne Meadows, have constructed a 22-acre research center in Venus, Florida to help present the proposals of The Venus Project. Four DVDs, pamphlets, and the book, The Best That Money Can't Buy: Beyond Politics, Poverty, and War, have been created to help raise awareness about this project and its many proposals. Hundreds of futuristic models, plus many computer animations and renderings, have been completed to help visualize this attainable future.

A major documentary on the life and work of Jacque Fresco is available completed by William Gazecki, an Academy Award nominated and Emmy winning documentary filmmaker.
http:// www.FutureByDesignTheMovie.com

Also the film Zeitgeist Addendum about the aims and directions of The Venus project can be viewed at www.ZeitgeistMovie.com

Phase Two

Phase Two includes the production of a full-length feature film depicting how a world embracing the proposals advanced by The Venus Project would work. This film would provide a positive vision of a peaceful society in which all human beings form a global family on planet Earth. A civilization where all people engage in the pursuit of a better understanding of the world they share. This film has been designed to be an entertaining and educational experience for both adults and children. It also provides a methodology for bridging differences between nations.

Phase Three

To test its designs and proposals, The Venus Project is working toward putting its ideals into practice with the construction of an experimental research city. Blueprints for most of the initial technologies and buildings have begun. Fund-raising efforts are currently under way to help support the construction of this first experimental city. This new experimental research city would be devoted to working toward the aims and goals of The Venus Project which are:

1. Recognizing the world's resources as the common heritage of all Earth's people.

2. Transcending the artificial boundaries that separate people.

3. Evolving from money-based, nationalistic economies to a resource-based world economy.

4. Assisting in stabilizing the world's population through education and voluntary birth control in order to conform to the carrying capacity of Earth’s resources.

5. Reclaiming and restoring the natural environment to the best of our ability.

6. Redesigning our cities, transportation systems, agricultural industries, and industrial plants so that they are energy efficient, clean, and able to conveniently serve the needs of all people.

7. Sharing and applying new technologies for the benefit of all nations.

8. Developing and using clean and renewable energy sources.

9. Manufacturing the highest quality products for the benefit of the world's people.

10. Requiring environmental impact studies prior to construction of any mega projects.

11. Encouraging the widest range of creativity and incentive toward constructive endeavor.

12. Outgrowing nationalism, bigotry, and prejudice through education.

13. Outgrowing any type of elitism, technical or otherwise.

14. Arriving at methodologies through careful research, rather than from mere opinions.

15. Enhancing communication in schools so that our language corresponds to the actual physical nature of the world.

16. Providing not only the necessities of life, but also offering challenges that stimulate the mind while emphasizing individuality over uniformity.

17. Finally, preparing people intellectually and emotionally for the changes and challenges that lie ahead.

Phase Four

After the experimental research city is built, a theme park is planned that will entertain and inform visitors about humane and environmentally friendly life-styles. It will feature intelligently designed cities; houses, high-efficiency, non-polluting transportation systems; advanced computer technology; and many other innovations that can add value to the lives of all people - in the shortest possible time.

We are quite aware that no one can actually predict the future. We can only extrapolate from present information and trends. Population growth, technological change, worldwide environmental conditions, and available resources are the primary data required for future projections.

There is no single philosophy or religious, political, scientific, or ideological point of view that someone would not take issue with. We feel certain, however, that the only aspects of The Venus Project that may appear threatening are those that we impose upon ourselves.

The Venus Project is neither Utopian nor Orwellian, nor does it reflect the dreams of impractical idealists. Instead, it presents attainable goals requiring only the intelligent application of what we already know.




Ora mi dici più precisamente cosa non ti convince della proposta di J. Fresco? (ma visti i presupposti, credo tu non la conosca..)
Inviato il: 31/8/2009 15:07
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