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Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori
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perdonami, ma il tuo molto grossolano riassunto è -oserei dire- farneticante!
Da un lato peṛ è pure piacevole..perche' hai fatto la summa di molte argomentazioni di "carnivori estremisti" che arrivano a pensare a quanto stronzio c'è nell'aria (o quanti lombrichi vengono tranciati dalle lame del trattore) pur di non dover cominciare a dubitare sull'eticità-salubrità-ecologicità della bistecchina nel piatto...

mi limito solo a fare alcune osservazioni:

Se trasportassimo un agnello scuoiato e appeso al gancio dalla vetrina di una macelleria ad un campo fuori città, cosa diventerebbe? Un possibile stufato o più correttamente una "carogna"? Il processo di trasformazione della carne comincia subito dopo la morte, nonostante i trattamenti a cui è sottoposta tendano a farla sembrare sempre "fresca"

Per quanto riguarda l' idoneità dell'uomo a mangiar carne, ricordo soltanto un paio di evidenze anatomo-fisiologiche, visto che l'argomento è già stato trattato:
Struttura fisica non aggressiva - tubo digerente lungo 12 volte il tronco (inadatto all'espulsione rapida dei resti di carne ingerita) - saliva idonea alla pre-digestione degli amidi dei cereali - dentatura specifica per vegetali (incisivi per mordere frutti e molari per macinare granaglie) - stomaco enzimaticamente inadatto a smaltire i residui tossici della carne - necessità di stimoli per l'attività peristaltica dell'intestino, possibile solo grazie alla presenza frutta e verdura - ecc ecc

Citazione:
invece di esportare tecnologie per renderli autosufficienti,esporta armi e democrazia per depredarli delle loro risorse minerarie e speculando sulla fame si inventa pure gli OGM tra i vegetali e legumi per poi costringerli all'acquisto di sementi e pesticidi brevettati ed a pagamento.


ancora?? ma cosa c'entrano i vegetariani con questo?? A parte che gli OGM di cui spesso parli sono usati per alimentare in larghissima misura gli animali da macello...ma credi che un vegetariano e vegano non pone attenzione alla scelta di prodotti NON OGM e non cerchi di indirizzare i suoi acquisti verso prodotti freschi, locali, non trattati o manipolati?

Citazione:
pubblicando ricerche mirate a modificare abitudini alimentari secondo le esigenze delle multinazionali alimentari e farmaceutiche


Beh..ti facevo più smaliziata... Cosa c'entrano le multinazionali col veganismo o la macrobiotica?? e le CASE FARMACEUTICHE?? sono proprio queste le migliori alleate dell'industria del macello, perche' ci propinano una dieta scorretta e tossica, facendoci ammalare!

Citazione:
vorrei sapere quali sono le cordinate geografiche per trovare un posto su questo pianeta esente da inquinamento terrestre,acquifero ed atmosferico per sviluppare questa fantomatica agricoltura biologica coś di moda e cara


sei rimasta indietro di 15 anni!! Di moda? ormai ha smesso di far parte di un mercato di nicchia! Si trova ormai dappertutto e persino la GDO tratta il biologico a prezzi molto abbordabili. Inoltre in Europa ha conosciuto una fortissima espansione negli ultimi anni e in paesi con maggiore coscienza ambientale (vedi Germania e Inghilterra) trovi il BIO nelle mense scolastiche, nei bar, nelle gelaterie, in tutti i supermercati, in reti locali organizzate in gruppi di acquisto e coś via.
Secondo te un frutto che ha sub́to fino a 30 trattamenti di pesticidi e per il quale non esiste nessun tipo di controllo -se non quello del contadino che vuole solo vendere e se ne sbatte della salute altrui- è più AFFIDABILE di un frutto che deve sottostare ad un regime di coltivazione naturale e di controlli severi, ma per il quale c'è solo il dubbio? d'altronde fa notizia il finto riso biologico pavese (e pochissimi altri casi isolati), ma non fa notizia ad esempio la presenza di DDT(vietatissimo da decenni) rilevata su ortaggi venduti nel napoletano qualche tempo fa...
Il dubbio (lecito) sulla tossicità dell'aria non dev'essere secondo me un alibi per non favorire un'agricoltura di minor impatto ambientale e che non fa uso di OGM, oltre a non ingrassare le multinazionali dell chimica.
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Un bovino ha un'efficienza di conversione delle proteine animali di solo il 6%: consumando cioè 790 kg di proteine vegetali, produce meno di 50 kg di proteine.
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                                                                                                                             Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Paxtibi 29/7/2006 14:06
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                                                                                                                                 Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori bianca 29/7/2006 14:59
                                                                                                                     Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori migiu2 29/7/2006 15:56
                                                                                                             Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori fiammifero 28/7/2006 22:47
                                                                                                               Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori migiu2 29/7/2006 17:07
                                                                                                                 Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori fiammifero 29/7/2006 23:10
                                                                                                                   Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori migiu2 31/7/2006 16:05
                                                                                                                     Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori fiammifero 31/7/2006 17:52
                                                                                                                       Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Ashoka 31/7/2006 18:13
                                                                                                                         Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori migiu2 31/7/2006 18:31
                                                                                                                           Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Ashoka 31/7/2006 18:45
                                                                                                                             Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Daemon 1/8/2006 15:52
                                                                                                                               Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Paxtibi 1/8/2006 15:59
                                                                                                                                 Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Ivy 2/8/2006 16:57
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                                                                                                                                     Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Paxtibi 2/8/2006 19:00
                                                                                                                                       Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Ivy 3/8/2006 8:48
                                                                                                                                         Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori migiu2 3/8/2006 10:15
                                                                                                                                           Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Ivy 3/8/2006 10:21
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                                                                                                                                                       Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori fiammifero 5/8/2006 23:13
                                                                                                                                                         Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Ivy 7/8/2006 12:16
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                                                                                                                                                           Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori fiammifero 9/8/2006 18:56
                                                                                                                                                             Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori migiu2 17/8/2006 16:19
                                                                                                                                                               Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Daemon 17/8/2006 18:44
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Paxtibi 17/8/2006 18:58
                                                                                                                                                                   Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Daemon 17/8/2006 20:36
                                                                                                                                                                     Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Paxtibi 17/8/2006 20:39
                                                                                                                                                                       Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori florizel 17/8/2006 22:05
                                                                                                                                                                       Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Daemon 17/8/2006 22:19
                                                                                                                                                                         Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori fiammifero 17/8/2006 22:40
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                                                                                                                                                                               Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori fiammifero 17/8/2006 23:55
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                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Daemon 18/8/2006 0:06
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                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Daemon 18/8/2006 17:33
                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori bandit 18/8/2006 18:29
                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori fiammifero 18/8/2006 19:30
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                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori fiammifero 22/8/2006 18:53
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                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Vinnie 22/8/2006 14:53
                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Max_Piano 22/8/2006 17:52
                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Vinnie 23/8/2006 14:08
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                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Vinnie 23/8/2006 16:43
                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Max_Piano 23/8/2006 17:12
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                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Vinnie 24/8/2006 16:33
                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Daemon 24/8/2006 17:21
                                                                                                                                                                               Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori fiammifero 18/8/2006 0:54
                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Daemon 18/8/2006 11:07
                                                                                                                                                   Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori fiammifero 4/8/2006 15:04
                                                                                                                                                     Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Daemon 4/8/2006 18:37
                                                                                                                                                       Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori PikeBishop 4/8/2006 18:47
                                                                                                                                                         Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori fiammifero 4/8/2006 20:52
                                                                                                                                                           Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori PikeBishop 4/8/2006 20:59
                                                                                                                                                             Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori fiammifero 4/8/2006 22:36
                                                                                                                                                               Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori PikeBishop 4/8/2006 23:06
                                                                                                                                                               Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori migiu2 5/8/2006 11:53
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Paxtibi 5/8/2006 12:08
                                                                                                                                                                   Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori fiammifero 5/8/2006 12:28
                                                                                                                                                                     Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori migiu2 5/8/2006 14:26
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                                                                                                                                                                         Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Daemon 5/8/2006 15:23
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                                                                                                                                                                               Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori fiammifero 5/8/2006 17:36
                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Santro 5/8/2006 19:50
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Linucs 5/8/2006 17:22
                                                                                                                                                           Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori bianca 4/8/2006 21:04
                                                                                                                                         Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori fiammifero 3/8/2006 10:42
                                                                                                                           Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori nike 31/7/2006 19:06
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                                                                                                                               Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori nike 31/7/2006 19:41
                                                                                                                                 Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Santro 1/8/2006 6:25
                                                                                                                                   Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori fiammifero 1/8/2006 9:45
                                                                                                                                   Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori nike 1/8/2006 10:59
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                                                                                         Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Daemon 24/7/2006 14:59
                                                                             Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori bianca 22/7/2006 11:57
                                                                               Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Daemon 22/7/2006 16:41
                                                                                 Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori fiammifero 22/7/2006 17:54
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                                                                                     Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori fiammifero 22/7/2006 23:23
                                                                                       Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori migiu2 23/7/2006 0:32
                                                                                         Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori migiu2 23/7/2006 23:33
                                                                                         Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori bianca 24/7/2006 11:42
                                                                                           Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori migiu2 24/7/2006 12:50
                                                                                   Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori ciccio5 24/8/2006 20:46
                                                                                     Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori ciccio5 24/8/2006 21:22
                                                                                       Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori bianca 24/8/2006 21:29
                                                                                         Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Daemon 24/8/2006 21:46
                                                                                           Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori ciccio5 25/8/2006 7:56
                                                                                           Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Max_Piano 25/8/2006 10:22
                                                                                             Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori mc 25/8/2006 11:46
                                                                                               Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori migiu2 25/8/2006 14:55
                                                                                                 Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Max_Piano 25/8/2006 20:08
                                                                                                   Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori fiammifero 25/8/2006 23:28
                                                                                                     Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori bianca 26/8/2006 0:07
                                                                                                       Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Vinnie 28/8/2006 2:05
                                                                                                     Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori migiu2 28/8/2006 16:10
                                                                                                       Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Santro 28/8/2006 16:51
                                                                                                         Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori fiammifero 28/8/2006 17:35
                                                                                                         Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori migiu2 29/8/2006 0:55
                                                                                                           Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori fiammifero 29/8/2006 1:32
                                                                                                   Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Daemon 29/8/2006 10:29
                                                                                                     Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori ciccio5 29/8/2006 14:16
                                                                                                       Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Max_Piano 29/8/2006 14:36
                                                                                                         Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori ciccio5 29/8/2006 14:44
                                                                                                           Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori migiu2 6/9/2006 0:07
                                                                                                             Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Max_Piano 6/9/2006 1:18
                                                                                                               Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori bandit 6/9/2006 8:05
                                                                                                                 Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori fiammifero 6/9/2006 9:29
                                                                                                                   Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori migiu2 6/9/2006 14:10
                                                                                                                     Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Paxtibi 6/9/2006 14:59
                                                                                                                       Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori migiu2 6/9/2006 15:05
                                                                                                                         Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori migiu2 9/10/2006 16:27
                                                                                                                           Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori benitoche 10/10/2006 22:15
                                                                                                                             Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori migiu2 10/10/2006 22:41
                                                                                                                               Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori benitoche 11/10/2006 0:45
                                                                                                                                 Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori migiu2 11/10/2006 20:49
                                                                                                                                   Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Santro 11/10/2006 20:55
                                                                                                                                     Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori migiu2 12/10/2006 12:45
                                                                                                                                       Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori bandit 12/10/2006 12:55
                                                                                                                                         Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Santro 12/10/2006 15:55
                                                                                                                                           Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori benitoche 13/10/2006 17:19
                                                                                                                                           Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori migiu2 18/10/2006 15:06
                                                                                                                                             Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori migiu2 18/10/2006 15:23
                                                                                                                                               Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Abulafia 18/10/2006 15:33
                                                                                                                                                 Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori migiu2 18/10/2006 15:50
                                                                                                                                                   Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori migiu2 7/11/2006 21:42
                                                                                                                                                     Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Max_Piano 7/11/2006 22:34
                                                                                                                                                       Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori fiammifero 7/11/2006 22:59
                                                                                                                                                         Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori migiu2 7/11/2006 23:49
                                                                                                                                                           Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Santaruina 7/11/2006 23:51
                                                                                                                                                             Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori migiu2 7/11/2006 23:59
                                                                                                                                                               Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Santaruina 8/11/2006 0:09
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori kalpoterni 8/11/2006 20:38
                                                                                                                                                           Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori fiammifero 9/11/2006 1:00
                                                                                                                                                             Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori migiu2 18/12/2006 19:21
                                                                                                                                                               Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori fiammifero 19/12/2006 9:47
                                                                                                                                                               Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Paxtibi 19/12/2006 11:42
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana migiu2 8/3/2007 13:38
                                                                                                                                                                   Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana PikeBishop 8/3/2007 14:01
                                                                                                                                                                     Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana migiu2 8/3/2007 14:12
                                                                                                                                                                       Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana PikeBishop 8/3/2007 14:24
                                                                                                                                                                     Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana NiHiLaNtH 8/3/2007 14:26
                                                                                                                                                                       Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana migiu2 8/3/2007 14:44
                                                                                                                                                                         Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana PikeBishop 8/3/2007 14:49
                                                                                                                                                                           Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana migiu2 8/3/2007 14:51
                                                                                                                                                                             Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana Kirbmarc 8/3/2007 14:54
                                                                                                                                                                               Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana migiu2 8/3/2007 15:14
                                                                                                                                                                               Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana PikeBishop 8/3/2007 15:20
                                                                                                                                                                   Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana Linucs 8/3/2007 16:04
                                                                                                                                                                     Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana migiu2 8/3/2007 19:19
                                                                                                                                                                       Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana fiammifero 9/3/2007 11:34
                                                                                                                                                                         Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana migiu2 9/3/2007 11:47
                                                                                                                                                                           Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana PikeBishop 9/3/2007 12:35
                                                                                                                                                                             Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana migiu2 9/3/2007 13:42
                                                                                                                                                                               Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana Kirbmarc 9/3/2007 13:58
                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana PikeBishop 9/3/2007 15:25
                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana migiu2 9/3/2007 17:06
                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana migiu2 9/3/2007 17:13
                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana Ramingo 9/3/2007 17:52
                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana migiu2 9/3/2007 18:42
                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana PikeBishop 9/3/2007 19:11
                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana fiammifero 9/3/2007 19:59
                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana Ramingo 10/3/2007 9:56
                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana PikeBishop 10/3/2007 10:17
                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana Pausania 10/3/2007 10:34
                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana PikeBishop 10/3/2007 10:50
                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana migiu2 10/3/2007 11:32
                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana PikeBishop 10/3/2007 11:55
                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana Santro 10/3/2007 12:33
                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana migiu2 10/3/2007 12:42
                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana PikeBishop 10/3/2007 17:11
                                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana Pausania 10/3/2007 19:17
                                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana Santaruina 10/3/2007 20:47
                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana migiu2 11/3/2007 13:14
                                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana Kirbmarc 12/3/2007 16:27
                                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana migiu2 12/3/2007 19:02
                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana Kirbmarc 12/3/2007 19:11
                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana migiu2 12/3/2007 19:28
                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana migiu2 24/3/2007 14:04
                                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana Pausania 12/3/2007 16:44
                                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana Kirbmarc 12/3/2007 16:52
                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana Dorian 24/3/2007 16:45
                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana migiu2 24/3/2007 17:02
                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana Dorian 24/3/2007 21:26
                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana migiu2 24/3/2007 21:39
                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: la scelta vegetariana Dorian 24/3/2007 21:54
                                                                                                                                       Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Santro 12/10/2006 12:56
                                                                                                                                         Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori migiu2 12/10/2006 13:06
                                                                                               Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori bandit 25/8/2006 15:14
                                                                                             Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Daemon 29/8/2006 10:19
                                                                                               Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Max_Piano 29/8/2006 14:35
                                                     Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori migiu2 19/7/2006 23:24
                                                       Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Ivy 19/7/2006 23:27
                                                         Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori migiu2 19/7/2006 23:46
                                                           Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Ivy 19/7/2006 23:48
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                                                       Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Ivy 19/7/2006 23:37
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                                                           Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori Ivy 19/7/2006 23:54
                                                             Re: Salute, ambiente ed eticità: vegan vs onnivori migiu2 20/7/2006 0:08
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