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Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?)
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Citazione:
Ok, parliamo della musica.

Appunto. Tu parli dell'unico ambito dove è tecnicamente possibile avere il prodotto gratuitamente, e non riguardo ad altri ambiti.

Citazione:
da vinile a musicassetta, da musicassetta a cd, da cd a Mp3, la componente fisica dei supporti e' stata assorbita' dai bytes. Smaterializzata. Vendere il supporto fisico e' lecito, e' un diritto del musicista, ed ha ancora un suo fascino: peccato che e' anacronistico ed e' per questo, un pessimo affare che non consiglierei a nessuno di intraprendere.

Qui sta la tua confusione. Che tu compri un vinile o un mp3 non cambia nulla, perché non compri il supporto, compri ciò che è supportato, in questo caso la musica. Non è importante il supporto, quindi dire che "vendere il supporto fisico è lecito" è una frase priva di significato.

La musica in vinile o in mp3 (a parte le differenti caratteristiche tecniche) è sempre la stessa, e tu vuoi la musica, non il supporto, che può essere variabile.

Quindi la questione fondamentalmente si riduce a questo: è tecnicamente possibile riprodurre la stessa opera all'infinito a costo zero. Stiamo cercando una giustificazione per il fatto che oggi vogliamo avere gratis quello che fino a ieri avevamo pagato senza battere ciglio.

Solo che per fare questo dobbiamo effettuare un salto logico, per cui dal fatto che sia possibile avere gratis musica e film si arriva a teorizzare che bisogna avere la cultura gratuitamente.

Ma sono due ambiti totalmente distinti: la possibilità tecnica di fare una cosa non rende quella cosa giusta di per se.

Tu dici che, poiché è possibile riprodurre gratuitamente la musica, allora è giusto che la musica sia gratuita. Ma non vedo perché. Se il brano X sta su vunile lo devo pagare, se è in mp3 no... perché?


Citazione:
proprio per quanto riguarda il produttore, ormai si puo' definitivamente emulare questo tipo di figura professionale, e' obsoleta, e si puo' prendersene carico personalmente e con poche risorse, al contrario del mondo musicale del passato.

Tutto si può fare, bisogna vedere cosa ne esce. Se tu ti costruisci la tua casa da solo, ci fai gli impianti da solo e l'arredi da solo, cosa ne esce alla fine? E in quanto tempo?

Quest'idea che tutti sono in grado di fare tutto mi fa rabbrividire. Se sei un musicista hai studiato per anni la musica, se fai il produttore quello è il tuo lavoro. Poi certo, se a te va bene scaricarti mp3 di qualità infima e con brani pessimi perché affidati tutti all'autoproduzione e all'autodistribuzione (tanto è gratis), allora capisco anche perché per te sia assurdo pagare.
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     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Anglagard 21/5/2007 9:50
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                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 18/6/2007 19:11
                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Pausania 18/6/2007 19:46
                                                                                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Dorian 18/6/2007 20:07
                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Dorian 18/6/2007 20:11
                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 18/6/2007 20:14
                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Dorian 18/6/2007 22:29
                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Maggiolino 19/6/2007 1:27
                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 19/6/2007 10:05
                                                                                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 18/6/2007 9:34
                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 18/6/2007 10:03
                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 19/6/2007 13:38
                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 19/6/2007 15:05
                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 19/6/2007 15:46
                                                                                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Pausania 19/6/2007 17:12
                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 19/6/2007 17:31
                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 20/6/2007 16:46
                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 19/6/2007 17:36
                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Pausania 19/6/2007 21:51
                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 20/6/2007 2:10
                                                                                                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Pausania 20/6/2007 10:49
                                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 20/6/2007 12:28
                                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 20/6/2007 13:33
                                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 20/6/2007 14:30
                                                                                                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) hi-speed 20/6/2007 15:45
                                                                                                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Pausania 20/6/2007 16:42
                                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Pausania 20/6/2007 13:56
                                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 20/6/2007 17:27
                                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 20/6/2007 18:52
                                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Pausania 20/6/2007 20:03
                                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 21/6/2007 10:22
                                                                                                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Pausania 21/6/2007 10:38
                                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 21/6/2007 12:10
                                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 21/6/2007 13:25
                                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Pausania 21/6/2007 13:34
                                                                                                                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 21/6/2007 14:14
                                                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Pausania 21/6/2007 15:42
                                                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 21/6/2007 16:29
                                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 21/6/2007 18:07
                                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 21/6/2007 13:21
                                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 21/6/2007 14:02
                                                                                                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 21/6/2007 14:27
                                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 21/6/2007 14:55
                                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 21/6/2007 15:14
                                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 21/6/2007 15:50
                                                                                                                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 21/6/2007 16:02
                                                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 21/6/2007 16:32
                                                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 21/6/2007 18:08
                                                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 21/6/2007 18:43
                                                                                                                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 21/6/2007 18:58
                                                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 21/6/2007 19:17
                                                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 21/6/2007 20:35
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 21/6/2007 21:49
                                                                                                                                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 21/6/2007 22:34
                                                                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 21/6/2007 23:35
                                                                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 22/6/2007 8:02
                                                                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 22/6/2007 9:30
                                                                                                                                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 22/6/2007 21:27
                                                                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Linucs 22/6/2007 21:37
                                                                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 22/6/2007 21:59
                                                                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 22/6/2007 22:31
                                                                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Linucs 22/6/2007 23:42
                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 22/6/2007 23:53
                                                                                                                                                                                   P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?): Ovvero "BENVENUTI A BABILONIA". mc 25/6/2007 10:47
                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?): Ovvero "BENVENUTI A BABILONIA". mc 25/6/2007 10:52
                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?): Ovvero "BENVENUTI A BABILONIA Dorian 25/6/2007 11:31
                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?): Ovvero "BENVENUTI A BABILONIA mc 25/6/2007 12:01
                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?): Ovvero "BENVENUTI A BABILONIA Dorian 25/6/2007 13:52
                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?): Ovvero "BENVENUTI A BABILONIA mc 25/6/2007 14:26
                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?): Ovvero "BENVENUTI A BABILONIA Iceman 25/6/2007 15:09
                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?): Ovvero "BENVENUTI A BABILONIA Fabrizio70 25/6/2007 20:53
                                                                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 22/6/2007 23:43
                                                                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 26/6/2007 11:28
                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Pausania 26/6/2007 12:48
                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 26/6/2007 13:28
                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Pausania 26/6/2007 14:11
                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 26/6/2007 16:03
                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) vincenzo 27/6/2007 12:46
                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 27/6/2007 13:11
                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 28/6/2007 12:02
                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 28/6/2007 13:32
                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Ghilgamesh 28/6/2007 16:00
                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 28/6/2007 16:19
                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 28/6/2007 16:23
                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 28/6/2007 16:32
                                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 28/6/2007 18:21
                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 28/6/2007 16:43
                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 29/6/2007 16:40
                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 29/6/2007 18:05
                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 4/7/2007 14:26
                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Ghilgamesh 4/7/2007 14:38
                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 28/6/2007 15:03
                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 29/6/2007 17:14
                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 29/6/2007 18:07
                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Maggiolino 30/6/2007 3:20
                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 4/7/2007 14:35
                                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 4/7/2007 15:13
                                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 4/7/2007 17:24
                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 4/7/2007 17:58
                                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 4/7/2007 23:40
                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Tato_p2p 11/7/2007 21:03
                                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Tato_p2p 11/7/2007 21:16
                                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 11/7/2007 21:30
                                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 12/7/2007 9:40
                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) hi-speed 12/7/2007 10:15
                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Tato_p2p 12/7/2007 12:05
                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 12/7/2007 12:47
                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Maggiolino 12/7/2007 20:22
                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Pausania 13/7/2007 16:11
                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 13/7/2007 18:25
                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 13/7/2007 18:53
                                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Fabrizio70 18/7/2007 18:27
                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Marco M 18/7/2007 23:41
                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 13/7/2007 15:33
                                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Maggiolino 5/7/2007 3:43
                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 1/7/2007 0:18
                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 5/7/2007 19:05
                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 6/7/2007 14:58
                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 6/7/2007 22:08
                                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 11/7/2007 10:10
                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 26/6/2007 14:38
                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 28/6/2007 11:56
                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Marco M 27/7/2007 18:55
                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) alinos 13/9/2007 16:03
                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) nessuno 13/9/2007 16:46
                                                                                                                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 21/6/2007 17:08
                                                                                                                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 21/6/2007 17:35
                                                                                                                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 22/6/2007 10:19
                                                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 22/6/2007 12:55
                                                                                                                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 22/6/2007 13:51
                                                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 22/6/2007 14:13
                                                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 22/6/2007 15:06
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Paxtibi 22/6/2007 15:50
                                                                                                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 21/6/2007 15:23
                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 20/6/2007 10:17
                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 20/6/2007 16:53
                                                                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 20/6/2007 17:04
                                                                                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 20/6/2007 16:42
                                                                                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 20/6/2007 17:59
                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 20/6/2007 18:17
                                                                                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 22/6/2007 13:51
                                                                                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 22/6/2007 15:24
                                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 14/6/2007 15:33
                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Maggiolino 1/6/2007 19:04
                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) franco8 4/6/2007 17:05
                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 8/6/2007 16:14
                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Ghilgamesh 31/5/2007 12:01
                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) hi-speed 31/5/2007 13:35
                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Anglagard 1/6/2007 9:08
                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 1/6/2007 9:38
                                                   Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 1/6/2007 9:29
                                                     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Ghilgamesh 1/6/2007 10:39
                                                       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 1/6/2007 12:20
                                                         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Ghilgamesh 1/6/2007 12:30
                                                           Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 1/6/2007 13:03
                                                             Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Ghilgamesh 1/6/2007 14:35
                                                               Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) maxgallo 1/6/2007 15:06
                                                                 Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 8/6/2007 16:01
     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) orkid 1/6/2007 18:04
       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Pausania 1/6/2007 18:36
     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) orkid 13/6/2007 18:54
     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) orkid 15/6/2007 17:24
       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 19/6/2007 13:19
     Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Tubo 1/7/2007 4:57
       Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Linucs 1/7/2007 16:39
         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) mc 2/7/2007 15:46
         Re: P2P, individuati quasi 4.000 condivisori italiani (e la Privacy?) Iceman 4/7/2007 14:36
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