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Re: Euro o Lira: Riassunto discussione
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anakyn ha scritto:
Sull'argomento in questione i numeri, anzi i numeretti, li hai usati solo tu, ed in modo sbagliato e semplicistico, proprio perchè sei l'unico che ritiene che si possano applicare formulette da scuole medie per realtà complesse come quella discussa.[...]

Tu hai parlato di somma zero o negativa. A parte il numero zero, una somma presuppone dei calcoli e i calcoli presuppongono dei numeri. Altrimenti ripeto: come fai a dire che la somma è nulla o negativa senza calcoli? Sei un indovino?
Citazione:
Non sono d'accordo, Sertes: per valutare l'impatto incrociato di spesa pubblica e tassazione all'interno di un sistema economico di rilevanza nazionale, le formulette da scuole medie non bastano proprio.

Già la sola scelta di considerare o meno nel calcolo il moltiplicatore keynesiano (al momento chi attua scelte di politica economica sembra non essere nemmeno a conoscenza di tale variabile) ti farebbe sballare di brutto i calcoli.
Per non parlare di tutte le altre variabili, delle fonti statistiche più o meno attendibili, delle previsioni, ecc ecc...
Per fare calcoli del genere a mio avviso ci vogliono proprio tecnici coi controcoglioni.

Io sto parlando dello stesso genere di calcoli con cui sostieni che la somma è nulla o negativa: tu sei un tecnico coi controcoglioni?
Citazione:
Per questo ho scritto che innanzitutto bisogna capire se si è d'accordo sui principi, ad esempio sul ritenere o meno che il moltiplicatore keynesiano esista sul serio e funzioni come descritto.
(e sinora non ho nemmeno capito se Infosauro si è convinto che tale moltiplicatore esista, e che impatto avrebbe sul processo economico. A giudicare dal fatto che continua a battere sempre sullo stesso chiodo, mi verrebbe da pensare che o non accetta l'esistenza del moltiplicatore, o lo considera una variabile trascurabile. In entrambi i casi per me il discorso si fermerebbe lì, perchè ci sarebbe una grossa divergenza a monte di qualsiasi calcolo)

Io ho mostrato i miei calcoli, se tu pensi che siano deficitari inserisci pure il moltiplicatore laddove pensi che serva, basta che spieghi i passaggi anche ai non addetti ai lavori. Non sto certo dicendo di aver spiegato tutta l'economia in 2 righe, ma presumo che questo moltiplicatore sia prima di tutto uno strumento matematico. Dunque si dovrebbe poter spiegare con la matematica.
Ad esempio tu, per trovare che la somma è nulla o negativa lo hai usato? Se sì, come?
Citazione:
Solo dopo si potrebbe partire coi calcoli, e onestamente credo che nessuno di noi abbia le competenze per svolgerli correttamente.[...]

E allora che ne sai se la somma è nulla o negativa?
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