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Ora che ho accontentato tutti, vorrei vedere da Fabrizio70 le prove straordinarie di come è stato falsata l'immagine, l'ombra e i suoni dei due aerei, mentre da Ras aspetto sempre la seconda risposta, quella che nel post 42 ha accuratamente evitato di rispondere.


Quanta fretta, ma dove corri; dove vai
se ci ascolti per un momento, capirai,
lui e il gatto, ed io la volpe, stiamo in società
di noi ti puoi fidar...


Mi sembra di ascoltare questa vecchia canzone, accontentato tutti ?

Delle versioni modificate non c'era certo bisogno un riepilogo , anche perchè pur essendo modificate rimangono invariate le velocità in base alla quota , quello che non hai considerato ( e me lo immaginavo ) è l'angolo di freccia del profilo alare , non basta come dici tu rinforzare la struttura , altrimenti non si capisce perchè gli aerei militari hanno angoli molto acuti , ed in certi casi anche variabili , te lo sei mai chiesto ?

http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairchild-Republic_A-10_Thunderbolt_II

Citazione:

Le ali, multilongherone, sono diritte e garantiscono una eccellente maneggevolezza, grandi come sono, ma anche una velocità non eccedente quella di un velivolo della seconda guerra mondiale: del resto, tutto l'aereo ha una resistenza aerodinamica elevatissima.


http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_F-14_Tomcat

Citazione:

Le ali a geometria variabile hanno uno scarto tra la minima e la massima freccia di 58° e il meccanismo di variazione automatica riesce a sfruttare fluidamente e completamente tale apertura, passando da una configurazione quasi ad ala dritta, ideale per l'appontaggio e la manovra a bassa velocità, sino ad arrivare ad una geometria quasi a delta, ideale per il volo supersonico od a bassa quota


http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panavia_Tornado


L'aspetto fondamentale del Tornado sono le sue ali a freccia con geometria variabile, una peculiarità notevole che permette al bombardiere della Panavia di ottimizzarsi per le diverse condizioni di volo. Queste ali bilongherone hanno una corda ridotta ed estremità particolarmente appuntite. Esse garantiscono decolli in spazi ridotti e stabilità ad alta velocità e bassissima quota. Il tronco fisso interno di fusoliera ha un angolo di 60° (su cui agisce il piccolo ipersostentatore Krüger), mentre il tronco mobile esterno ha una freccia di 25° al bordo d'attacco alla freccia minima (fino a 0,73 mach) e di 67° alla freccia massima (oltre mach 0,9), con due posizioni intermedie (45° fino a 0,88 e 58 fino a 0,9 mach). Da notare che se l'ala somiglia a quella di altri progetti come l'F-14, la necessità di avere una macchina molto stabile nel volo veloce a bassa quota ha imposto una superficie estremamente ridotta, forse persino troppo, specialmente quando è necessario invece volare in quota; il carico alare raggiunge il valore di circa 1.000 kg per metro quadrato, superando quello di qualsiasi altro aeroplano ma creando dei problemi nei duelli aerei.


Inoltre nonostante l'adozione di ali a geometria variabile quello che non si può modificare è la densità dell'aria alle varie quote....

Citazione:

Prestazioni dichiarate e dati reali:

* Velocità massima: Mach 2,2 a 12.000 m senza carichi esterni, vera in termini teorici, ma quella raggiungibile è di 1,92 (continuativa circa 1,8), nonostante quanto affermato dai costruttori che il Tornado IDS sia una macchina da Mach 2 solo nella pubblicità (400 chilometri orari di differenza tra la velocità massima dichiarata, in realtà corrispondente solo a limiti tecnici, e quella effettiva basata sulla potenza disponibile).
* Velocità massima a livello del mare: 1.483 km/h senza carichi esterni, con carichi esterni 1.160 (mach 1,2 e 0,92)
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: teoria no-planes Redazione 19/2/2010 1:38
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: teoria no-planes guru2012 19/2/2010 2:00
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: teoria no-planes niio 19/2/2010 10:54
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: teoria no-planes Decalagon 19/2/2010 10:54
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: teoria no-planes Sertes 19/2/2010 12:32
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: teoria no-planes Lestaat 19/2/2010 13:54
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: teoria no-planes Pyter 19/2/2010 16:13
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: teoria no-planes Pyter 19/2/2010 18:26
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: teoria no-planes branzac 19/2/2010 18:30
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: teoria no-planes Lestaat 19/2/2010 18:34
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: teoria no-planes branzac 19/2/2010 18:40
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: teoria no-planes Fabyan 19/2/2010 18:45
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: teoria no-planes branzac 19/2/2010 18:55
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: teoria no-planes Lestaat 19/2/2010 18:57
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: teoria no-planes Paxtibi 19/2/2010 19:05
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: teoria no-planes Decalagon 19/2/2010 19:08
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: teoria no-planes branzac 19/2/2010 19:09
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: teoria no-planes Paxtibi 19/2/2010 19:14
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: teoria no-planes Lestaat 19/2/2010 19:19
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: teoria no-planes branzac 19/2/2010 19:20
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: teoria no-planes Lestaat 19/2/2010 19:21
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: teoria no-planes Decalagon 19/2/2010 19:22
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: teoria no-planes branzac 19/2/2010 19:39
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: teoria no-planes branzac 19/2/2010 19:45
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: teoria no-planes Lestaat 19/2/2010 19:50
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: teoria no-planes Decalagon 19/2/2010 19:58
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: teoria no-planes Paxtibi 19/2/2010 19:55
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: teoria no-planes branzac 19/2/2010 19:59
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: teoria no-planes branzac 19/2/2010 20:09
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: teoria no-planes Decalagon 19/2/2010 20:14
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: teoria no-planes Sertes 19/2/2010 20:43
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: teoria no-planes Lestaat 19/2/2010 19:37
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: teoria no-planes Paxtibi 19/2/2010 20:07
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: teoria no-planes Lestaat 19/2/2010 21:31
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: teoria no-planes Paxtibi 19/2/2010 22:14
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: teoria no-planes Tegma 19/2/2010 23:04
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: teoria no-planes Fabyan 19/2/2010 23:09
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: teoria no-planes Sertes 20/2/2010 8:25
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: teoria no-planes LoneWolf58 20/2/2010 9:05
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: teoria no-planes branzac 20/2/2010 13:01
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: teoria no-planes Decalagon 20/2/2010 13:45
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: teoria no-planes Sertes 20/2/2010 13:54
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: teoria no-planes Redazione 20/2/2010 15:23
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: teoria no-planes branzac 20/2/2010 15:50
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: teoria no-planes Decalagon 20/2/2010 16:04
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: teoria no-planes branzac 20/2/2010 16:07
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: teoria no-planes Pyter 20/2/2010 17:32
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: teoria no-planes LoneWolf58 20/2/2010 17:50
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: teoria no-planes Paxtibi 20/2/2010 17:51
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: teoria no-planes brio 20/2/2010 18:08
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: teoria no-planes Lestaat 21/2/2010 20:27
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: teoria no-planes guru2012 22/2/2010 13:32
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: teoria no-planes rekit 22/2/2010 13:53
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: teoria no-planes Sertes 22/2/2010 14:01
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: teoria no-planes branzac 20/2/2010 18:09
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: teoria no-planes branzac 20/2/2010 18:14
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: teoria no-planes LoneWolf58 20/2/2010 18:36
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: teoria no-planes branzac 20/2/2010 18:47
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: teoria no-planes LoneWolf58 20/2/2010 18:57
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: teoria no-planes branzac 20/2/2010 19:02
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: teoria no-planes rekit 20/2/2010 19:24
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: teoria no-planes Redazione 21/2/2010 12:26
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: teoria no-planes branzac 21/2/2010 12:35
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: teoria no-planes Decalagon 21/2/2010 12:41
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: teoria no-planes Redazione 21/2/2010 12:45
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: teoria no-planes Decalagon 22/2/2010 14:15
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: teoria no-planes branzac 22/2/2010 14:58
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: teoria no-planes LoneWolf58 22/2/2010 15:26
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: teoria no-planes branzac 22/2/2010 15:45
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: teoria no-planes brio 22/2/2010 17:10
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: teoria no-planes branzac 22/2/2010 18:02
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: teoria no-planes Redazione 23/2/2010 13:49
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: teoria no-planes Redazione 23/2/2010 14:06
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: teoria no-planes branzac 23/2/2010 15:14
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: teoria no-planes brio 23/2/2010 16:40
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: teoria no-planes branzac 23/2/2010 17:28
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: teoria no-planes Redazione 23/2/2010 22:52
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: teoria no-planes brio 24/2/2010 0:40
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: teoria no-planes niio 24/2/2010 9:48
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: teoria no-planes Decalagon 24/2/2010 11:40
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: teoria no-planes niio 24/2/2010 12:05
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: teoria no-planes Decalagon 24/2/2010 14:58
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: teoria no-planes Redazione 24/2/2010 18:10
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: teoria no-planes brio 25/2/2010 10:15
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: teoria no-planes Decalagon 24/2/2010 13:07
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: teoria no-planes Redazione 24/2/2010 14:24
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: teoria no-planes Redazione 24/2/2010 14:26
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: teoria no-planes guru2012 24/2/2010 11:28
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: teoria no-planes ahmbar 24/2/2010 12:54
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: teoria no-planes OneTimePad 25/2/2010 6:35
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: teoria no-planes brio 25/2/2010 10:21
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: teoria no-planes LoneWolf58 25/2/2010 15:48
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: teoria no-planes OneTimePad 26/2/2010 8:02
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: teoria no-planes LoneWolf58 26/2/2010 8:06
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: teoria no-planes brio 26/2/2010 10:24
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: teoria no-planes LoneWolf58 26/2/2010 11:43
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: teoria no-planes bariona 26/2/2010 15:53
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: teoria no-planes LoneWolf58 26/2/2010 16:52
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: teoria no-planes Decalagon 26/2/2010 16:54
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: teoria no-planes LoneWolf58 26/2/2010 17:28
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: teoria no-planes brio 26/2/2010 17:35
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: teoria no-planes LoneWolf58 26/2/2010 17:41
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: teoria no-planes brio 26/2/2010 17:54
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: teoria no-planes LoneWolf58 26/2/2010 19:29
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: teoria no-planes brio 28/2/2010 14:20
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: teoria no-planes LoneWolf58 28/2/2010 14:50
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: teoria no-planes brio 4/3/2010 17:51
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: teoria no-planes LoneWolf58 4/3/2010 18:44
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: teoria no-planes brio 4/3/2010 19:04
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: teoria no-planes LoneWolf58 4/3/2010 19:07
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: teoria no-planes brio 5/3/2010 8:54
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: teoria no-planes Redazione 5/3/2010 10:38
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: teoria no-planes brio 6/3/2010 21:18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: teoria no-planes Redazione 7/3/2010 19:11
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: teoria no-planes Redazione 8/3/2010 9:40
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: teoria no-planes Redazione 9/3/2010 13:36
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: teoria no-planes Redazione 9/3/2010 14:24
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: teoria no-planes brio 9/3/2010 21:21
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: teoria no-planes Redazione 9/3/2010 23:23
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: teoria no-planes guru2012 13/3/2010 15:49
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: teoria no-planes Decalagon 15/3/2010 17:09
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: teoria no-planes gronda85 15/3/2010 22:27
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: teoria no-planes brio 4/3/2010 18:51
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: teoria no-planes bariona 26/2/2010 11:57
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: teoria no-planes niio 26/2/2010 10:06
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: teoria no-planes LoneWolf58 26/2/2010 12:06
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: teoria no-planes branzac 26/2/2010 15:37
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: teoria no-planes brio 26/2/2010 17:21
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: teoria no-planes Decalagon 26/2/2010 17:32
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: teoria no-planes protoss 21/9/2011 18:57
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: teoria no-planes branzac 26/2/2010 17:38
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: teoria no-planes Decalagon 26/2/2010 17:41
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: teoria no-planes branzac 26/2/2010 17:46
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: teoria no-planes brio 26/2/2010 17:49
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: teoria no-planes branzac 26/2/2010 17:53
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: teoria no-planes brio 26/2/2010 18:00
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: teoria no-planes branzac 26/2/2010 18:12
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: teoria no-planes branzac 26/2/2010 18:40
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: teoria no-planes brio 27/2/2010 0:01
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: teoria no-planes guru2012 27/2/2010 1:06
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: teoria no-planes ahmbar 27/2/2010 1:19
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: teoria no-planes branzac 27/2/2010 13:00
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: teoria no-planes Redazione 27/2/2010 22:47
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: teoria no-planes brio 26/2/2010 17:46
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: teoria no-planes Sertes 25/2/2010 17:48
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: teoria no-planes brio 26/2/2010 0:02
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: teoria no-planes rekit 21/2/2010 12:47
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: teoria no-planes LoneWolf58 21/2/2010 15:02
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: teoria no-planes branzac 21/2/2010 15:44
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: teoria no-planes LoneWolf58 21/2/2010 16:30
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: teoria no-planes branzac 21/2/2010 18:30
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: teoria no-planes brio 21/2/2010 19:00
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: teoria no-planes branzac 21/2/2010 19:17
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: teoria no-planes Lestaat 20/2/2010 0:10
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: teoria no-planes Paxtibi 20/2/2010 1:26
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: teoria no-planes Redazione 20/2/2010 1:56
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: teoria no-planes Decalagon 19/2/2010 19:16
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: teoria no-planes brio 19/2/2010 16:34
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: teoria no-planes Decalagon 19/2/2010 16:39
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: teoria no-planes brio 19/2/2010 16:44
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: teoria no-planes brio 19/2/2010 16:42
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: teoria no-planes Decalagon 19/2/2010 16:44
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: teoria no-planes brio 19/2/2010 0:56
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Re: teoria no-planes Tegma 19/2/2010 0:28
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: teoria no-planes brio 19/2/2010 0:29
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: teoria no-planes LoneWolf58 18/2/2010 22:57
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: teoria no-planes Lestaat 18/2/2010 23:03
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: teoria no-planes Decalagon 18/2/2010 23:05
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: teoria no-planes Decalagon 18/2/2010 23:12
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Re: teoria no-planes Tegma 18/2/2010 23:12
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: teoria no-planes Fabyan 18/2/2010 18:11
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