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Re: HIV e AIDS
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Mi devo correggere ed ammettere la mia ignoranza in materia di mycoplasma....
Citazione:
Per quanto riguarda i mycoplasma... sembra che l'assenza di membrana cellulare implichi assenza di risposta immunitaria in quanto vengono a mancare gli antigeni di membrana che scatenano la risposta immunitaria.


Ebbene, sembra invece che questi mycoplasma presentino antigeni che vengono riconosciuti dal nostro sistema immunitario:

Ho trovato infatti un Patent datato 1993 che spiega come siano stati isolati anticorpi specifici per una nuova varieta' di Mycoplasma (simile al Fermentans e chiamata Incognitus) isolata da pazienti affetti da AIDS e che al contrario dell'HIV sembra aver riprodotto su modelli animali il qudro clinico della patologia. Si parla anche di come gli antigeni di questi mycobatteri potrebbero essere utilizzati per sviluppare un vaccino....
La cosa assurda e' che questo studio e' stato finanziato from the United States Department of the Army.

Ho trovato pure un articolo del 2005 che mette in relazione il Mycoplasma Fermentans con la Gulf War Syndrome e autismo che si sviluppa tra i figli dei veterani (ovviamente non c'e' una correlazione del 100% ma lacosa inizia a puzzare...)

A questo punto vedo solamente due ipotesi:

1-Clamoroso abbaglio preso dalla comunita' scientifica (in buona o malafede che sia) che a questo punto non puo' essere pubblicamente smentito.
Soluzione = introdurre (come sembra si stia gia' facendo) composti dotati di particolare attivita' antibiotica nella terapia HAART farsi un bel pompino da soli e concludere che i passati 20 anni e i milioni di vittime lungo la strada sono state il prezzo da pagare per arrivare finalmente ad una terapia efficace.
Tutti bravi e tanti saluti.

2-I complottisti hanno ragione, l'agente responsabile dell'AIDS e' stato prodotto dall'uomo (quindi studiato in modo da essere difficilmente neutralizzaile) per controllare la crescita della popolazione con tutti gli annessi e connessi che il mio povero cervello pseudorazionale si rifiuta di mettere insieme e mi porta allo sviluppo di anticorpi verso alcuni ceppi della razza umana.
Soluzione = attendere lo sviluppo degli eventi e sperare che chi di dovere sia un giorno in grado di controllare il suo Frankenstein in miniatura.

Ho solo voglia di tornare bambino.......
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