Re: Un altro complottista fifone si dilegua

Inviato da  m4x il 19/6/2011 14:13:04

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"Caro" Attivissimo, come spieghi l'incontrovertibile presenza di acciaio fuso a Ground Zero e quindi la totale incompatibilità di queste temperature con gli incendi nelle Torri ?


"I didn't personally see molten steel at the World Trade Center site. It was reported to me by contractors we had been working with. Molten steel was encountered primarily during excavation of debris around the South Tower when large hydraulic excavators were digging trenches 2 to 4 meters deep into the compacted/burning debris pile. There are both video tape and still photos of the molten steel being "dipped" out by the buckets of excavators. I'm not sure where you can get a copy."

Mark Louizeux - 911Myths (sito di debunking)






Foto di Frank Secchia.

"My name is Frank Silecchia. I am one of the many WTC Ground Zero workers who was devastated by what I saw and encountered after the Twin Towers collasped."

Sempre da 911myths

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September 19-October 2001: Structural Engineer Finds Evidence of Extreme Temperatures at WTC

An engineer investigating the remains of the World Trade Center sees melted girders and other evidence that the towers experienced extreme temperatures on 9/11. Dr. Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl is a professor of civil and environmental engineering at the University of California, Berkeley. He specializes in studying structural damage done by earthquakes and terrorist bombings. [Chronicle of Higher Education, 12/7/2001; CBS News, 3/11/2002] He arrives in New York on September 19 to conduct a two-week scientific reconnaissance of the collapsed towers, hoping to gain an understanding of how they had come down. His project is one of eight financed by the National Science Foundation to study the WTC disaster. [New York Times, 10/2/2001; Berkeleyan, 10/3/2001; US Congress. House. Committee on Science, 3/6/2002] He examines numerous pieces of steel taken from Ground Zero. [Chronicle of Higher Education, 12/7/2001] Astaneh-Asl will describe the WTC as “the best-designed building I have ever seen.” [San Francisco Chronicle, 10/22/2001]

He later recalls, “I saw melting of girders in [the] World Trade Center.” [PBS, 5/10/2007]

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December 2003-May 2004: Study Indicates Extreme Temperatures Involved in WTC Collapses

A laboratory releases two reports focusing on the unique properties of the dust from the World Trade Center collapses, and finds evidence of extremely high temperatures involved in these collapses. The laboratory, RJ Lee Group of Pennsylvania, is the largest commercial electron microscope laboratory in the world. [RJ LeeGroup, Inc., 5/2004, pp. 1] In April 2002, it was retained on behalf of Deutsche Bank Trust Company Americas to investigate environmental contaminants in this company’s building at 130 Liberty Street, New York. [RJ LeeGroup, Inc., 12/2003, pp. 1] The building, located next to the World Trade Center, was heavily damaged on September 11, suffering a 24-story gash when the South Tower collapsed. [New York Times, 6/20/2003; Real Estate Weekly, 9/14/2005] RJ Lee collected samples from it, which it then analyzed “using industry standard analytical laboratory methods.” [RJ LeeGroup, Inc., 12/2003, pp. 3-4] In December 2003 and May 2004, it releases two reports that evaluate the features of the dust from the WTC that was deposited in 130 Liberty Street. It calls this evaluation “the most extensive microscopic investigation related to WTC dust ever performed.” [RJ LeeGroup, Inc., 12/2003, pp. 1-2 pdf file; RJ LeeGroup, Inc., 5/2004, pp. 4]

“Various metals (most notably iron and lead) were melted during the WTC event, producing spherical metallic particles. Exposure of phases to high heat results in the formation of spherical particles due to surface tension.” [RJ LeeGroup, Inc., 12/2003, pp. 17]

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Alison Geyh, who heads a team of scientists studying the potential health effects of 9/11, reports: “Fires are still actively burning and the smoke is very intense. In some pockets now being uncovered, they are finding molten steel.” [Johns Hopkins Public Health Magazine, 2001]

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New York firefighters recall “heat so intense they encountered rivers of molten steel.” [New York Post, 3/3/2004]

Complete 911 Timeline

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Public health advisor Ron Burger, a veteran of disasters from the Mississipi floods to Mt. St. Helens who arrives at Ground Zero on September 12, said: "Feeling the heat, seeing the molten steel, the layers upon layers of ash, like lava, it reminded me of Mt. St. Helens [...]."

National Environmental Health Association, 9/2003


According to Greg Fuchek, vice president of a company that supplied computer equipment used to identify human remains at Ground Zero: "Sometimes when a worker would pull a steel beam from the wreckage, the end of the beam would be dripping molten steel."

Government Computer News, 9/11/2002


"Peter Tully, president of Tully Construction of Flushing, New York, told AFP that he saw pools of "literally molten steel" at the World Trade Center. Tully was contracted on September 11 to remove the debris from the site.

Tully called Mark Loizeaux, president of Controlled Demolition, Inc. (CDI) of Phoenix, Maryland, for consultation about removing the debris. CDI calls itself "the innovator and global leader in the controlled demolition and implosion of structures."

Loizeaux, who cleaned up the bombed Federal Building in Oklahoma City, arrived on the WTC site two days later and wrote the clean-up plan for the entire operation.

AFP asked Loizeaux about the report of molten steel on the site. "Yes," he said, "hot spots of molten steel in the basements." These incredibly hot areas were found "at the bottoms of the elevator shafts of the main towers, down seven [basement] levels," Loizeaux said. The molten steel was found "three, four, and five weeks later, when the rubble was being removed," Loizeaux said. He said molten steel was also found at 7 WTC, which collapsed mysteriously in the late afternoon."

American Free Press


"L'unica cosa che fa pozze di materiale fuso è appunto la termite"

Danilo Coppe.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SLIzSCt_cg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLCwq3-RzZs


7a. How could the steel have melted if the fires in the WTC towers weren’t hot enough to do so?
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In no instance did NIST report that steel in the WTC towers melted due to the fires. The melting point of steel is about 1,500 degrees Celsius (2,800 degrees Fahrenheit). [...]. NIST reported maximum upper layer air temperatures of about 1,000 degrees Celsius (1,800 degrees Fahrenheit) in the WTC towers (for example, see NCSTAR 1, Figure 6-36).


E soprattutto, come puoi affermre con spudorata certezza che non sono stati usati esplosivi quando lo stesso NIST afferma di non aver svolto nessun test a riguardo ?

12. Did the NIST investigation look for evidence of the WTC towers being brought down by controlled demolition? Was the steel tested for explosives or thermite residues? The combination of thermite and sulfur (called thermate) "slices through steel like a hot knife through butter."

NIST did not test for the residue of these compounds in the steel.


Come ho gia scritto in un altro thread, "qualcuno l'avrebbe fatto"...
Forse sarebbe l'ora di confutare la scienza prodotta invece della rivista su cui è stato pubblicato l'articolo, che ne dici Attivissimo ?

http://xoomer.virgilio.it/911_subito/studio_nanothermite.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_tf25lx_3o


E un'ultima cosa. Attivissimo afferma che nessun esperto di demolizione controllata abbia mai avallato la suddetta teoria...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=877gr6xtQIc

Jowenko non solo lo ha affermato in trasmissione, ma lo ha anche ribadito in privato...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QajDxF9uEf4


Insomma Attivissimo, quando la smetterai di fare il "cacciatore di bufale" e proverai (seriamente) a cercarti un lavoro ?