Re: No wtc planes? No, grazie!
Inviato da Paxtibi il 27/8/2008 18:21:15
Guarda Sertes che il punto cruciale è proprio la questione alluminio vs acciaio, tutto il resto viene di conseguenza. È per cercare di spiegare l'impossibilità che le tv ci hanno mostrato che sono nate tutte le diverse teorie, che ci si è messi ad analizzare i video, a ipotizzare ologrammi, e anche a chiedersi cosa hanno visto effettivamente i testimoni oculari.
In un impatto tra due corpi è quello più tenero a subire i danni maggiori, non il contrario. Se tu vuoi continuare a sostenere che l'alluminio è più duro dell'acciaio è inutile qualsiasi discussione, perché è chiaro che per te quello che la tv ci ha fatto vedere è la realtà.
E quello che ci ha fatto vedere è un aereo di alluminio che impatta contro una barriera di colonne d'acciaio senza mostrare la minima reazione, la perfora, e svanisce all'interno (salvo sbucare dall'altra parte...). Stare a discutere dei testimoni è sicuramente utile, ma non cambia il fatto che questo è un evento impossibile.
Comunque, qua c'è un'analisi delle testimonianze di 500 "First Responders":
Going in Search of Planes in NYC
The words “plane jet airplane aircraft” were found in 426 accounts, 1770 times. The final account Sample Size was used for the “Witnesses to a plane” study was 291. A few of those who simply described seeing the impacts on TV were left out, but some were included – the main focus of the study was on those who were close to where the 2nd impact happened.
16 witnesses reported seeing the 1st plane before impact and 16 witnesses reported hearing the 1st plane before impact but only 1 Witness reported clearly seeing and hearing plane 1 before impact.
I managed to establish that at least 96 witnesses were near the WTC (with ½ a mile) at time of 2nd impact and a further 21 witnesses were inside one of the WTC buildings at the time of the 2nd impact. This gave a total of 117 witnesses who were near or the Inside WTC buildings at the time of 2nd impact.
* Only 19 of the witnesses near the WTC reported actually seeing plane 2 before impact and, as a percentage of total number near the WTC, this was 20%.
* Only 20 of the witnesses near the WTC reported actually hearing plane 2 before impact and as a percentage of total number near the WTC, this was 21%.
* Only 8 of the witnesses near the WTC reported actually seeing and hearing plane 2 before impact and as a percentage of total number near the WTC, this was 8.3%.
* Of those witnesses inside one of the WTC buildings at the time of the 2nd impact, only 2 reported hearing the plane (none saw it). As a percentage of the total of those inside WTC, this was 9.5%.
* There were 117 witnesses inside or near the WTC and 291 witnesses in the total sample I used. The percentages given below, then, are therefore based on the number 291 – 117 giving a total of 174.
* There were 33 witnesses who were further than ½ mile from the WTC Complex and reported seeing plane 2 before impact. As a percentage of the total of those who were further than ½ mile from WTC Complex, this was 19%.
* There were 2 witnesses who were further than ½ mile from the WTC Complex and reported hearing plane 2 before impact. As a percentage of the total of those who were further than ½ mile from WTC Complex, this was 1.1%.
In un impatto tra due corpi è quello più tenero a subire i danni maggiori, non il contrario. Se tu vuoi continuare a sostenere che l'alluminio è più duro dell'acciaio è inutile qualsiasi discussione, perché è chiaro che per te quello che la tv ci ha fatto vedere è la realtà.
E quello che ci ha fatto vedere è un aereo di alluminio che impatta contro una barriera di colonne d'acciaio senza mostrare la minima reazione, la perfora, e svanisce all'interno (salvo sbucare dall'altra parte...). Stare a discutere dei testimoni è sicuramente utile, ma non cambia il fatto che questo è un evento impossibile.
Comunque, qua c'è un'analisi delle testimonianze di 500 "First Responders":
Going in Search of Planes in NYC
The words “plane jet airplane aircraft” were found in 426 accounts, 1770 times. The final account Sample Size was used for the “Witnesses to a plane” study was 291. A few of those who simply described seeing the impacts on TV were left out, but some were included – the main focus of the study was on those who were close to where the 2nd impact happened.
16 witnesses reported seeing the 1st plane before impact and 16 witnesses reported hearing the 1st plane before impact but only 1 Witness reported clearly seeing and hearing plane 1 before impact.
I managed to establish that at least 96 witnesses were near the WTC (with ½ a mile) at time of 2nd impact and a further 21 witnesses were inside one of the WTC buildings at the time of the 2nd impact. This gave a total of 117 witnesses who were near or the Inside WTC buildings at the time of 2nd impact.
* Only 19 of the witnesses near the WTC reported actually seeing plane 2 before impact and, as a percentage of total number near the WTC, this was 20%.
* Only 20 of the witnesses near the WTC reported actually hearing plane 2 before impact and as a percentage of total number near the WTC, this was 21%.
* Only 8 of the witnesses near the WTC reported actually seeing and hearing plane 2 before impact and as a percentage of total number near the WTC, this was 8.3%.
* Of those witnesses inside one of the WTC buildings at the time of the 2nd impact, only 2 reported hearing the plane (none saw it). As a percentage of the total of those inside WTC, this was 9.5%.
* There were 117 witnesses inside or near the WTC and 291 witnesses in the total sample I used. The percentages given below, then, are therefore based on the number 291 – 117 giving a total of 174.
* There were 33 witnesses who were further than ½ mile from the WTC Complex and reported seeing plane 2 before impact. As a percentage of the total of those who were further than ½ mile from WTC Complex, this was 19%.
* There were 2 witnesses who were further than ½ mile from the WTC Complex and reported hearing plane 2 before impact. As a percentage of the total of those who were further than ½ mile from WTC Complex, this was 1.1%.
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