Re: OLOCAUSTO: verità, mezza verità o menzogna?

Inviato da  Linucs il 1/7/2006 21:35:29
Sì, ora sui campi di sterminiio nazisti c'è troppa retorica e strumentalizzazione.

Premesso che non ce l'ho con te, ma come perdere la ghiotta occasione?



Ma non posso accettare i negazionisti, il loro atteggiamento è rivoltante.

Chi sono i negazionisti? Quale atteggiamento?

Fate bene a citare altre grandi tragedie dimenticate, ma per favore non usatele come argomento (FALLACISSIMO!) contro l'esistenza della persecuzione nazista.

Ohibò: e da quando le altre grandi tragedie sono diventate un argomento contro l'esistenza della persecuzione nazista? Al massimo si dovranno sommare: non è che ammazzando un milione di cinesi e un milione di australiani andiamo in pari con gli ebrei, anzi, abbiamo 8 milioni di morti. Quindi?

Le leggi razziali ci sono state anche qui in Italia, hanno colpito degli innocenti, cittadini italiani, che sono poi finiti nei campi di concentramento, a causa dello Stato.

Bingo: lo Stato.

E' questo che ancora mi sconvolge.

Ti sconvongerà ancor di più il fatto che gli Stati Europei parlano apertamente (nel 2006) di leggi razziali, però con la solita favoletta della difesa dalla discriminazione.

Leggiamo, leggiamo tutti insieme:

Call for race laws change

Current race laws need to be changed to improve national security, the chairman of the Commission for Racial Equality (CRE) has said. Trevor Phillips called for a debate over whether police and security forces ought to be allowed to recruit ethnic minority operatives "in greater proportions than whites" in an attempt to increase the number of Muslim officers. In a forthcoming speech, he will say it is not just a matter of fairness and equality - but an issue of national security. He will question whether the UK's police and security services are "fit for purpose" and will say that British Muslim communities are as alive to the threat of terrorism as anyone else, and as committed to tackling it.

Correctional Service disqualifying whites

Critics are calling it "craziness" that the Correctional Service of Canada is disqualifying candidates for parole officer jobs because they're white. An Ontario job-seeker received a rejection letter recently, advising that only aboriginals and visible minorities need apply.

"Please be advised that effective immediately the Ontario region of the Correctional Service of Canada is no longer maintaining an inventory for parole officer applications from the general public," the Feb. 19 letter reads.

"Due to staffing resources we will continue to accept applications from aboriginal and visible-minority candidates only."

CSC is committed to having a "skilled, diversified workforce reflective of Canadian society," the letter continues, adding that future vacancies may be posted that are open to the "general public."

Conservative MP Myron Thompson called the policy "unbelievable" and "craziness" and suggested CSC is putting political correctness ahead of merit.

[url=http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051003/pl_nm/court_discrimination_dc"]US court denies white students' discrimination case[/url]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court let stand on Monday a ruling that three unsuccessful white applicants cannot collect any damages from their lawsuit challenging the University of Washington Law School's use of race as a factor in admissions.

Without comment or recorded dissent, the justices declined to review a U.S. appeals court ruling that upheld as legal the policy in effect in the mid-1990s when Katuria Smith, Angela Rock and Michael Pyle applied and were rejected.

"The law school's narrowly tailored use of race and ethnicity in admissions decisions during 1994-96 furthered its compelling interest in obtaining the educational benefits that flow from a diverse student body," the appeals court ruled.

The Supreme Court in a major ruling in 2003 upheld the use of racial preferences in university admission decisions and cited the benefits of a diverse student body. The court upheld the University of Michigan's affirmative action program that favors minorities who apply to its law school.

White UTC Police Officer Claims Discrimination

A white former UTC Police officer is suing the state and the University of Tennessee, saying he was the victim of racial discrimination. Sean Shelton, of Cleveland, Tn., filed the suit in Chancery Court. The suit says his supervisor, Corporal Rebecca Tolbert, "often exhibited an undisguised animosity towards white employees." It says she slandered Mr. Shelton, accusing him of racial profiling, racism, alcoholism and misogyny. It says she commented that she "expected him to rape somebody." The suit says Ms. Tolbert once threatened to kill Mr. Shelton. He said he was forced to change to another shift and lost opportunities for overtime.

It says another African-American supervisor, who was promoted though he allegedly slept on the job, told Mr. Shelton he was "nothing but a white boy, redneck ----."

The suit says Mr. Shelton filed a discrimination complaint, but no action was taken.

It also says Mr. Shelton made numerous complaints to his superiors about policies, including not allowing officers to write citations for traffic violations.

He said he was informed that African American employees "could do and say whatever they wished, as they were 'in a protected class.'" He said he was told he was "not in a protected class."

Stairway to Nowhere, No Whites Allowed

A high school student who painted an image that kinda sorta looks like a stairway to heaven had to change it after some folks complained about the religious imagery, reports the Napa Valley Register.

The student, who carries a Bible and has earned the nickname Pastor K., said he didn't want to offend anyone and immediately changed the image on a painting outside the Napa High School art room.

Stairs previously leading to a castle in the sky now lead to a sunspot in the sky, and the castle is moored to the ground instead of planted in clouds. "I don't want to cause anyone to get upset," said the student, Kyle Trudelle.

Some observant students wonder, however, why no one has complained about a nearby mural depicting the Virgin Mary. It was explained that that painting is about Hispanic heritage, so it's OK.

Indeed

KGET-TV in California reports that a white social worker who wanted to attend a meeting of the National Association of Black Social Workers was told he was not welcome because of his skin pigment.

Bakersfield, Calif., social worker Brain Parnell wanted to attend the New Orleans meeting along with five of his colleagues because he often works with minority children. When he tried to enter, however, he was turned away.

"I approached the registration table and was greeted by a very friendly fellow who looked me in the eye and said, 'Are you black?'" said Parnell. "I told him that I'm not and he told me that the conference was only for people who were black and so I wasn't able to register to attend the conference."

"I was shocked," said Parnell. "I was surprised that in 2005, I could be singled out because of the color of my skin."

Bad Girl!

An 8-year-old girl who wanted to sing a song that mentioned God at her elementary school talent show was told the content was too religious for a school function and denied that right, according to The Associated Press.

Olivia Turton wanted to sing the Rich Mullins song "Awesome God" for the show at Frenchtown Elementary School in New Jersey, but school officials stopped her. Lyrics like "Our God is an awesome God/He reigns from heaven above/with wisdom, pow'r and love/Our God is an awesome God" apparently scared them.

The girl's parents have now sued the school, claiming it violated her First Amendment rights.

Stop the Presses

A Dallas-area parent is demanding that her child's preschool change its logo because it features only a Caucasian child, reports WFAA-TV.

Leslie Moore, a teacher in McKinney, Texas, whose child is in the preschool program, says the logo is racist.

"It sends the wrong message," she said. "It's telling me that every other ethnic race other than Caucasian is inferior to the Caucasian race."

Even though T-shirts and bags are already being printed, along with letterhead, school officials have stopped everything and will meet with Moore to discuss trading the offensive image for another logo that depicts the gorgeous mosaic of ethnicities that is the McKinney school district.

School bans girl with hair braids

A 13-year-old girl has been suspended from school because the head teacher disapproves of her hairstyle.

Olivia Acton returned from a holiday with braids, which Middleton Technology School in Rochdale deemed "extreme".

She has been excluded until the braids are removed, but is resisting the school's demands which she regards as being discriminatory.

The school has offered to teach her apart from other pupils. The local authority says it cannot intervene.

Olivia regards the school's policy as discriminatory because black pupils are allowed to wear braids.

The Middleton Technology School pupil said she was not aware her new hairstyle would breach strict rules drawn up by governors which state that children "cannot have their head shaved or wear extreme hair fashions of any sort".

However, she is confused and angry that two other pupils - one black and one mixed race - have not been reprimanded.

She told the BBC News website: "It's like one rule for black children and another rule for white.

"I'm not going to take the braids out. I don't think I should take them out because I'm not black."

The school's compromise was to offer to teach Olivia in isolation in its learning support unit, but she has declined, preferring instead to study at home.

Olivia's parents are wholly supportive and her father Michael believes he will have to take the case to court.

He has taken three weeks off work to supervise his daughter's home study and although he admits this situation cannot continue indefinitely, he refuses to back down.

He said: "I don't think the head teacher is racist, but I think she is creating racism by saying that black children can have this hairstyle but white children can't.

"The policy is divisive.

"I don't know where this is going to end up, but I can see it going to court and a magistrate deciding whether this constitutes an 'extreme' hairstyle.

"I have already been to the race relations board and my next step is to write to the Education Secretary Ruth Kelly to ask her to sort it out.

"I may even go to the European Court of Human Rights."

Exam fears

Olivia is concerned that home learning is no substitute for the classroom.

She said: "I have Sats tests in May and I'm really worried about that."

She said she would not have opted for her £17 hairstyle if she had known it would cause such a furore.

She said: "I had no idea that braids were against the rules. If I had known that I wouldn't have had it done.

"But I don't think it's an extreme hairstyle - why is it extreme for me and not for a black pupil?"

The school denies its policy is racist or discriminatory.

A spokesman said: "The school has firm and clear rules about what hairstyles are acceptable, which are communicated to all pupils and parents.

"In this instance, a pupil was asked to change her unacceptable hairstyle, and when she did not comply, she was excluded for one day because of her failure to observe the school rules.

"Olivia returned to school on 7 March, but as her hair was still braided, she was again sent home.

"It is crucial for pupils facing Sats exams that they are at school when they need to be."

Program lets children 'live' slavery

ALPINE, Ala. - The girl stares at the ground, the man looming beside her. Directly ahead is a path for escape. Others stand rigidly with eyes cast downward.

"They're runaways, ain't they? You don't even have a concept of freedom, do you?" the man barks at her face. "You a slave, girl?"

She nods, a few others sniffle.

The 50 children, only one of whom is black, were experiencing the cruelties inflicted upon slaves who tried to escape north through the Underground Railroad.

"Slaves had to go through that every day and I only did it for an hour," said 11-year-old Nicole Wallis, who was so frightened that she left the living history program halfway through.

The reenactment at the YMCA's Camp Cosby, about 45 miles east of Birmingham, is one of several nationwide, but uniquely intense. Camp counselors attempt to give a realistic perspective about slavery to fourth- and fifth-grade students by dressing as slave traders, bounty hunters and abolitionist and sending students on a risky journey through the dense woods surrounding the camp.

Uniquely intense experience

The result is a jarring, yet memorable experience that experts say can't be achieved through a textbook.

"Kids tend to faze out when just reading in a textbook," said Jeff Solomon, executive director of the National Camp Association.

Though emotion-packed living history programs are a growing trend, the intensity of the one at Camp Cosby is still rare, said Jane Healey, an educational psychologist based in Vail, Colo.

Children, she said, need to be old enough to handle the program and need to be prepared for what they will experience.

If both those conditions are met, the psychological impact of the camp's slavery program will be strong, but not necessarily harmful, said Healey, author of "Your Child's Growing Mind."

"I'm not particularly worried it's going to damage children," she said.

Certo che non è preoccupata, visto che non sono figli suoi.

Ecco qua, questa è una piccola parte delle leggi razziali e discriminazioni ufficiali in vigore nel 2006. Stranamente, non sento nessuno protestare. Stranamente, non sento levarsi il lamento di sdegno. Ma forse così strano non è: forse è giusto molestare i ragazzini e discriminare, anzi è senz'altro giusto senz'altro poiché i pargoli avranno sicuramente ereditato qualche colpa. Le leggi razziali di oggi si chiamano affirmative action, positive discrimination e quote etniche. Ma siccome stiamo tutti con la testa a 60 anni fa, nessuno apparentemente se ne accorge. E quando se ne accorge, pensa "ma in questo caso è giusto."

E' giusto perché questa volta tocca agli occidentali cattivi e pallidi, gli stessi imbecilli che evidentemente godono a vivere prostrati, perché è stato insegnato loro di essere spazzatura durante qualche programma di rieducazione forzata a scuola, un tema alla volta.

Parafrasando il famoso Niemöller: "Prima sono venuti per i negazionisti e io non ho reagito - perché non ero negazionista. Dopo sono venuti per i revisionisti e io non ho reagito - perché non ero un revisionista. In seguito sono venuti per i sessisti e i razzisti e io non ho reagito - perché non ero un sessista o un razzista. Poi sono venuti per me e non era rimasto più nessuno a reagire". (forse era troppo pallido)

Com'è che tutto tace?

Poi sono daccordo che tutti i dolori vanno superati; nella biografia di un uomo, come in quella di un popolo, non si può continuamente insistere sulle tragedie del passato, esse sono esistite, ma la vita impone di guardare avanti, e. soprattutto, di non utilizzarle come giustificazioni.

Il che nega istantaneamente ogni forma di quota razziale di alcun tipo.

Ma il vostro atteggiamento negazionistia

"Vostro?"

mi spinge a cercare ancora ogni faccia, ogni singolo nome e data di nascita, ogni parola e testimonianza sulla Shoah.

Ma è proprio facendo questo che potresti finire in carcere, grazie alla legge speciale del giorno.

Tuttavia, non è forse vero che i testimoni falsi non sono altro che un insulto a quelli veri?

Paradossalmente, mi impedisce di fare ciò che si dovrebbe: saper guardare avanti. Poi sarò disponibile a parlare male quanto vi pare dello stato di Israele, ma NON in un post che si intitola così.

Nel frattempo, invece di opporci ai negazionisti con le prove, li abbiamo elevati a martiri con leggi speciali e processi farsa: in quale modo, di grazia, questo dovrebbe difendere la memoria ed evitare che l'orrore si ripeta? I falsi testimoni non vanno forse prontamente isolati, in modo che non possano essere strumentalizzati dai negazionisti stessi?

Bruciamo i libri, affinché non possano tornare i nazisti a bruciare libri? Buttiamo gente in carcere con leggi inventate, in modo che i nazisti non possano tornare e buttarci in carcere con la prima scusa? Scriviamo e sosteniamo apertamente leggi razziali (di nostra iniziativa?) per evitare la discriminazione razziale?

War Is Peace?
Freedom Is Slavery?
Ignorance Is Strength?
Ho forse scritto imbecille in faccia col pennarello?

Io non ho debiti con nessuno, e non sono tenuto a coltivare sensi di colpa indotti a favore di nessuno. Se qualche Solomon o qualche Healey hanno voglia di fare i furbi, gliela faccio passare volentieri a forza di articoli di giornale messi in fila, non si sa mai che il lettore colga il trend.

Se un Irving scrive cazzate sul nazismo attendo semplicemente che qualcuno lo sputtani pubblicamente con le prove. Se invece un Irving viene sbattuto in carcere grazie ad una legge farsa, che è l'antitesi totale di come andrebbe affrontato lo studio della storia, potrò anche disprezzarlo, ma ora il buffo uomo non è più solo un povero imbecille delirante, è il primo anello nella triste catena di Niemöller. Dobbiamo aspettare di essere arrivati all'ultimo prima di aprir bocca? Allora evidentemente la storia non ci ha insegnato nulla.

Badombe> Solomon, non far incazzare lo zio Linucs...


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